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		<title>Oberserving myself . . .</title>
		<link>http://blog.rats.at/550/oberserving-myself</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rattus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[I am a liar]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Nonsense]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am observing. I am observing myself. I am observing myself observing myself. I am observing myself observing myself observing myself. . . . and so on and so forth . . . I am observing myself observing myself &#8230; being lazy. I am observing myself observing myself &#8230; being lazy observing myself. . . [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am observing.</p>
<p>I am observing myself.</p>
<p>I am observing myself observing myself.</p>
<p>I am observing myself observing myself observing myself.</p>
<p><strong>. . . </strong>and so on and so forth<strong> . . .</strong></p>
<p>I am observing myself observing myself &#8230; being lazy.</p>
<p>I am observing myself observing myself &#8230; being lazy observing myself.</p>
<p><strong>. . .</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: right;">[<a title="Post in reply to the Heinz von Foerster Congress 2009" href="http://www.univie.ac.at/hvfcongress/" target="_blank">X</a>]</p>
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		<title>Who knows</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rattus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[(Not) Knowing]]></category>
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		<title>An Ouroboros still</title>
		<link>http://blog.rats.at/499/an-ouroboros-still</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rattus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Quotes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[autopoiesis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[cycle]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Good Winter]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[life]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ouroboros]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ouroboros illustration by Good Winter This fascinating illustration, a variation of the Ouroboros theme, I luckily found at the Good Winter Tumblr blog. (Click the picture to see the original version.) [X] [X] [w]]]></description>
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<div><a title="Good Winter Ouroboros" href="http://goodwinter.tumblr.com/post/131877174" target="_blank"><img title="Good Winter Ouroboros" src="/pix/ouroboros_knot_240.jpg" alt="An Ouroboros Knot" /></a></p>
<div class="wpstylecaption">Ouroboros illustration by <a href="http://goodwinter.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Good Winter</a></div>
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<p>This fascinating illustration, a variation of the Ouroboros theme, I luckily found at the <a href="http://goodwinter.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Good Winter Tumblr blog</a>. (Click the picture to see the <a href="http://goodwinter.tumblr.com/post/131877174" target="_blank">original version</a>.)</p>
<p style="margin-top: 4em">[<a href="http://blog.rats.at/122/symbols-dont-lie" target="_self">X</a>] [<a href="/120/ouroboros" target="_self">X</a>] [<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros" target="_blank">w</a>]</p>
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		<title>Who is fooling who</title>
		<link>http://blog.rats.at/254/who-is-fooling-who</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rattus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[I am a liar]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[deception]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[If someone tells you, about whatever you had in mind, that it might just be your body making a fool of you, deceiving you, enslaving your mind, this is not obviously a lie but a lie nonetheless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone tells you, about whatever you had in mind, that it might just be your body making a fool of you, deceiving you, enslaving your mind,<br />
this is not obviously a lie but a lie nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>Not explaining explanation</title>
		<link>http://blog.rats.at/198/not-explaining-explanation</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rattus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[I am a liar]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[con-science]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[explaining]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can we explain explanation? Of course, dictionaries explain explanation. With ease, and without a word about self-reference. Though, implicitly (they explain a lot). I wonder whether they have to in order to sell. Like scientists need to stick to objectivity in order to get funded. (This explains a hell of a lot.) So, we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can we explain explanation? Of course, <a target="_blank" title="Search dict.org for Explain" href="http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&#038;Database=*&#038;Query=explain">dictionaries</a> explain explanation. With ease, and without a word about self-reference. Though, implicitly (they explain a lot).</p>
<p>I wonder whether they have to in order to sell. Like scientists need to stick to objectivity in order to get funded. (This explains a hell of a lot.)</p>
<p>So, we can explain explanation (like we can think about thinking). Imagine we cannot. &#8212; I can&#8217;t. Now explain that you cannot!</p>
<p>I cannot explain why I cannot explain that I cannot explain. This <strong><em>is</em></strong> my explanation.</p>
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		<title>Ouroboros</title>
		<link>http://blog.rats.at/120/ouroboros</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rattus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[No liars]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[autopoiesis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[cycle]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[life]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ouroboros]]></category>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin-left: 67px"><a target="_blank" title="See Wikipedias entry about the Ouroboros" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros"><img title="Uroborus" alt="Uroborus" src="/pix/ouroboros_300.png" /></a></p>
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		<title>This and that</title>
		<link>http://blog.rats.at/25/this-and-that</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rattus</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Quotes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Dichotomies]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Douglas R. Hofstadter]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[h2g2]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[refers to]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Robert Boeninger]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[This sentence does in fact not have the property it claims not to have. &#8211; Robert Boeninger A wonderful example of a not so obvious self-contradictory sentence. It is discussed in Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind and Pattern by Douglas R. Hofstadter. Some more examples of paradoxical statements, a great illustration of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This sentence does in fact not have the property it claims not to have.<br />
&#8211; Robert Boeninger</p></blockquote>
<p>A wonderful example of a not so obvious self-contradictory sentence. It is discussed in <em>Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind and Pattern</em> by  <a title="Wikipedia on Douglas R. Hofstadter" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Hofstadter">Douglas R. Hofstadter</a>. Some more examples of paradoxical statements, a great illustration of troublesome self-reference, and why it simply is all about <strong>this</strong> and <strong>that</strong> may be found in the <a title="Unconventional guide to life, the universe and everything" target="_blank" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/">h2g2</a>&#8216;s entry on &#8220;<a title="h2g2 on self-reference" target="_blank" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A533927">self-reference</a>&#8220;.</p>
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